Actually, let me just pull up my podcast feed right now and tell you what's on there. I listen of course, to Laurie Santos' Happiness Lab. So I absolutely subscribe to all the main Bachelor fan podcasts. Well, I'm a big Bachelor fan, as you know. So I'm a huge fan of podcasts, but I just never imagined myself having a show of my own. It's super immersive for me, way more immersive than TV. Like I really love podcasts, so I love the audio medium. I need to have a really fascinating thing to say that feels interesting to me. That's just not the directionality that works for my brain. You didn't think, "Oh, I want to be a podcaster and what should I do it about?"ĭefinitely not. So you started with the subject rather than the ambition. Changes of all kinds, right? And then let's see what we can learn, see if we can change our own minds about change." And so I was like, "Let's dig up the most fascinating change stories.
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And so maybe if we heard stories from people who have experienced extraordinary changes in their lives, we could learn something interesting, right? There's no manual out there on how to navigate big life changes, right? We don't know what that process is supposed to look like. And maybe the specifics of what 2020 threw our way is unprecedented, but our human ability to navigate change is not. Because I'm a cognitive scientist, so I was thinking about this from the perspective of psychology, right? Which is like, how do we interact with this change thing that just happens in our lives, whether we like it or not. I think everybody was feeling really overwhelmed by the change happening around them, and I think I realized. So during quarantine, I was feeling really overwhelmed by all the changes that were happening around me. How did you even get interested in being a podcaster? I have a feeling we both assume that other people would want to be friends with us, and so we don't actually. I have a feeling we share these character traits. We are pleased to inform you of your acceptance. Your application has been reviewed by our committee.
So first of all, clearly I don't know how to play hard to get, but thankfully you didn't really enjoy the chase because you wrote back right away. I'll work with your agent to complete the relevant paperwork. Jimmy Lee and I would like to sign up to be your friend.
This is after my husband Jimmy and I hung out with you at Dick birthday party. So I went back into the Gmail chambers and I found something very fun from 2015. And Michael, before we start talking about the podcast, I did want to share, I went down memory lane a little bit around our friendship because we've been friends for like I don't know, five, six years. We talk about the inspiration for my show, and you'll get a little sneak peek of what's to come this season. To help kick things off, I called up my good friend and fellow podcast host, Michael Lewis. We have an amazing season lined up for you where I talk with folks who've navigated remarkable changes in their lives. Hey, I'm Maya Shankar, host of the new podcast, A Slight Change of Plans from Pushkin Industries.
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